Why Is Bill Dorfman Using Zoom?

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    Why not?


    He owns the company.

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    Why is Bill Dorfman Using Zoom?

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    I read that Bill Dorfman uses Zoom for his bleaching method. Why isn'
    he using Rod Kurthy's technique? Many have reported that they ge
    better results using Rod's technique.


    http://www.billdorfman.com/zoom.htm

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    #2 03-14-2005, 07:33 AM
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    Interesting question!

    Bill Dorfman is the ORIGINAL dental entrepreneur, well kinda. H
    founded the company, Discus, which makes bleaching products, and o
    course manufactures the Zoom light and armamentarium.

    Zoom is the light-activated bleaching system which, from many reports
    works equally well without the light. Its in the chemicals!


    Rod and Bill are friendly competitors!

    Joel

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    How Zoom Works!
    The Zoom! light activated gel was developed after years of reseach b
    Discus Dental, the leaders in professional take-home tooth whitening
    The gel is scientifically formulated, pH balanced Hydrogen Perxid
    that, when activated by the Zoom! light, gently penetrates
    the teeth only to remove deep stains and
    discoloration, while leaving the structure
    of the tooth unchanged. With proper care
    and on occasional touch up at home, your
    whiter smile will sparkle for years.

    Tune into Zoom!
    Ask your dental professional how the Zoom!
    In-Office Whitening System will work for you.
    Take your first step to feeling good, looking great and making
    memorable impression every time you smile. You owe it to yourelf!

    A Note of Assurance
    Tooth whitening is a well established procedure in cosmetic dentistry
    Hydrogen Peroxide, the active ingredient in Zoom!, has also been safel
    used for many years in the treatment of gums and other oral sof
    tissue.

    The whitening process is effective on most discolored teeth. Darke
    stains, such as those caused by antibiotics, are more difficult t
    whiten. The degree of whiteness will vary from patient to patient
    depending on the structure of the teeth.
    Day White Nite White

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    #3 03-14-2005, 07:37 AM
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    As an aside, Bill Dorfman got into a hassle with Gina Dorfman (Mopsy)
    no relation, at DentalTown because he made known to patients, the
    could acquire more of his products directly from his website
    Unfortunately, the price he offered the patients is below the price h
    sold to the dentists for, who must also place a markup onto th
    product!

    So once the patient catches wind of this, there is trouble afoot.

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joel344
    As an aside, Bill Dorfman got into a hassle with Gina Dorfman (Mopsy)
    no relation, at DentalTown because he made known to patients, the
    could acquire more of his products directly from his website
    Unfortunately, the price he offered the patients is below the price h
    sold to the dentists for, who must also place a markup onto th
    product!

    So once the patient catches wind of this, there is trouble afoot.

    Joel


    Joel,

    I didn't know Bill Dorfman founded Discuss.

    Why is there trouble afoot? That is not illegal to offer products to
    patients at a lower price is it? Why can't he do this?

    You mean dentists will get mad...or will they try to sue Dorfman or
    what?

    ...Actually it makes one wonder what the markup is on this stuff if he
    can afford to flex the pricing so much...

    I still think Crest Whitestrips will be the hottest ticket item for the
    masses (for those who are caught up in the bleaching craze).

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joel344
    Interesting question!

    Bill Dorfman is the ORIGINAL dental entrepreneur, well kinda. He
    founded the company, Discus, which makes bleaching products, and of
    course manufactures the Zoom light and armamentarium.

    Zoom is the light-activated bleaching system which, from many reports,
    works equally well without the light. Its in the chemicals!


    Rod and Bill are friendly competitors!

    Joel

    **



    How Zoom Works!
    The Zoom! light activated gel was developed after years of reseach by
    Discus Dental, the leaders in professional take-home tooth whitening.
    The gel is scientifically formulated, pH balanced Hydrogen Perxide
    that, when activated by the Zoom! light, gently penetrates
    the teeth only to remove deep stains and
    discoloration, while leaving the structure
    of the tooth unchanged. With proper care
    and on occasional touch up at home, your
    whiter smile will sparkle for years.

    Tune into Zoom!
    Ask your dental professional how the Zoom!
    In-Office Whitening System will work for you.
    Take your first step to feeling good, looking great and making a
    memorable impression every time you smile. You owe it to yourelf!

    A Note of Assurance
    Tooth whitening is a well established procedure in cosmetic dentistry.
    Hydrogen Peroxide, the active ingredient in Zoom!, has also been safely
    used for many years in the treatment of gums and other oral soft
    tissue.

    The whitening process is effective on most discolored teeth. Darker
    stains, such as those caused by antibiotics, are more difficult to
    whiten. The degree of whiteness will vary from patient to patient,
    depending on the structure of the teeth.
    Day White Nite White



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    This really kills me. Aren't they required to reference studies to back
    up their claims??? I checked the website... it says "in one study...blah
    blah blah"
    Then the one study is not even referenced!

    How do they get away with that?

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    #6 03-14-2005, 08:09 AM
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    You hit the nail on the head. Many of the studies
    are soft studies often financed by the companies
    themselves. When I complain about that, often
    on DentalTown, there is little or no response.

    If one mentions standard deviation (concerning data),
    many people say, "Hey Whot?? Whazzat??"


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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Joel344
    You hit the nail on the head. Many of the studies
    are soft studies often financed by the companies
    themselves. When I complain about that, often
    on DentalTown, there is little or no response.

    If one mentions standard deviation (concerning data),
    many people say, "Hey Whot?? Whazzat??"


    Joel

    Joel,

    You are too funny. They known what a SD is.
    They probably thought you were just trying
    to be obnoxious.

    It is unfortunate. You were so misunderstood
    on DT! Most misundertsand the intent of your
    humor.

    The funny thing is, it is more acceptable to be crude,
    degrading and bashing than humorous on DT. At least
    I saw more tolerance for that behavior than tolerance
    for you and your posts.

    I think it is a matter of posting too much and
    interrupting flow. It is ok to be "bad" if you
    do not do it too much... It is worse to be
    frequently "interruptive" than "degrading, mean
    and spewing ad hominens" once in awhile.

    Just a guess.

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    #8 03-14-2005, 12:41 PM
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    You wanna bet they know?

    I seriously doubt it.

    Just work it into a conversation
    sometime and watch the dumb stares.


    Joel
     
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