Root Canal went bad - OverExtended root, Trigeminal Nerve Damage, Punctured Sinuses

Discussion in 'Dental Archive' started by Raju . Bhupathiraju, May 17, 2004.

  1. I had a Root Canal (RC) in Feb 03.

    Started experiencing pain all the way thru and after the procedure...

    Wasn't sure the procedure went well...So never got the crown done.

    Right after the RC procedure, I changed my primary dentist.

    I Could feel a foreign object or a string kind of a thing up my tooth
    whenever there was physical shock to the head(Like running, jogging
    etc..)

    Pain worsened towards May-03, EXTREMELY PAINFUL EPISODES. (Which i
    later discovered to be an infection)

    Went to an Endodontist for 2nd opinion, he said there was infection,
    But refused to tell me what is wrong STRAIGHT ON MY FACE, under the
    pretext of professional etiquette.

    I went back to the dentist who did my initial RC, and then she just
    gave me antibiotics and Anti inflammatory drugs and said I was good.
    And everything was alright. I personally feel she was covering up.


    June03 -thru- Feb04

    During this whole period went to an ENT, Oral surgeon (3 times),
    Neurologist (2 times). No one diagnosed what was wrong even after 2
    MRI's @ the Neurologist.

    Feb 04- went to my home country from the US for vacation, and visited
    my Dentist. The first X-ray, They said of the 3 roots,
    one was over extended by 4mm,
    and another under extended by 1mm.

    They tried getting the over extended filling out, but couldn't. During
    the process they couldn't get the extra filling out… I got relief
    from the extra string feeling I used to feel in the upper jaw right
    after the foreign dentists broke the linking part of the filling
    between the "Gutta Percha" (Filling material) in the tooth and the
    protrusion outside the root.

    The dentists there tried all that they could to get the extra
    protruded filling out of the root, but they couldn't and finally ended
    up re-filling the root and closing the root and the final filling.




    Mar-04 – May 04
    Went back to the new primary dentist for a regular cleaning in march
    and asked him why he wouldn't tell me that the Root Canal went not
    that well. He said he was just a dentist and not an Endodontist to
    comment on the Root Canal.

    I went back to a Neurologist, now that I knew the problem with the
    cause of the weird feelings in the cheek and the face (Root Canal
    overextension). He said the nerve endings have definitely been
    damaged.


    I also wanted to see an Endodontist about what to do with the extra
    filling above the root itself. And there it was the new news...the
    extra piece of broken filling above the root punctured and went into
    my sinuses.

    I don't know what to do and how to proceed. My dentist tells me that
    the ENT can perform a minimally invasive Endoscopic surgery going
    through my nose into the sinus and get the extra filling out.

    Please let me know if you would think it was the fault of the initial
    dentist screwing up the RC badly with an overextension? And what all
    remedies I might have to consider be back to normal again.
     
    Raju . Bhupathiraju, May 17, 2004
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  2. I could have told you from your first description about jogging that
    you have a sinus infection.

    I'll bet the roots of that tooth are in the sinus.

    During the infection your sinus enlarged and pressure was placed on
    the surrounding nerves.

    a root canal is all about killing the nerves so I do not see any wrong
    doing here.

    Excess gutta percha outside the root does not cause pain. The pain is
    coming from your sinus which keeps on getting infected.
    Either the infection did not completely resolve or that tooth may
    still have some unfillled canal that is causing the infection. I do
    not recommend extracting this tooth if the roots are in the sinus, you
    may be creating another problem at this time. I believe this infection
    will clear up eventually perhaps with more antibiotics and your
    symptoms will disappear at least until your sinus gets infected again.
    I would not worry about it, I have seen root canals with all kinds of
    things out of the root much deeper with no problems.
    The procedure your ENT wants to do may not deminish the problem.
    Maybe it will allow for drainage of the sinus and that will help or
    maybe it will not do anything but increase your chances for future
    sinus infections.
    It sounds like the tooth was necrotic prior to the root canal.

    From personal experience I too had a sinus infection that created same
    type of pain in my molar tooth and I have to tell you that it
    eventually cleared up and hasn't returned to 14 years and counting.
    I really believe that the excess gutta percha is not the root of your
    problem what is important in a root canal is that there is no cracks
    or spaces from the tip of the root which is inside the bone and the
    crown of your tooth. The tooth needs to be hermedically sealed from
    saliva and oral bacteria.





    (Raju . Bhupathiraju) wrote in message news:<>...
     
    Alexander Vasserman DDS., BS., May 18, 2004
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  3. Raju . Bhupathiraju

    Dr Steve Guest

    Hi Jan,

    Is Morel season over now? How long can they be collected?

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    Stephen Mancuso, D.D.S.
    Troy, Michigan, USA
    .....................................................

    This posting is intended for informational or conversational purposes only.
    Always seek the opinion of a licensed dental professional before acting on
    the advice or opinion expressed here. Only a dentist who has examined you
    in person can diagnose your problems and make decisions which will affect
    your health.
    .......................
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    Dr Steve, May 19, 2004
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  4. Which link has the punctured sinuses?

     
    Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S., May 19, 2004
    #4
  5. As long as the wild boars roam Indiannaoplis .......
     
    Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S., May 19, 2004
    #5
  6. (Jan) wrote in message

    That is why they used silver points. Silver is supposed to be
    bacteriostatic.
    unfortunately once the point corrodes the release of silver declines
    and pain recurres due to infection.




     
    Alexander Vasserman DDS., BS., May 19, 2004
    #6
  7. Silver points have fallen into disfavor.


    On 19 May 2004 13:23:55 -0700, (Alexander
    Vasserman DDS., BS.) wrote:
     
    Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S., May 19, 2004
    #7
  8. Thanks Alexander, Jan, Dr.Steve 7 Joel for the info.

    This thing has been daunting and haunting me for the last year and a
    half or so.. I dont know what to do.. but yes the possible sinus
    infection i think has given me an answer the the mystery fo all the
    weird facial feelings i have been having.

    I will keep updating the the info on my case as it progresses.

    I am to see the endodontist on the 21st may 2004. Will post the
    developments then.

    Thanks.
     
    Raju . Bhupathiraju, May 20, 2004
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  9. Raju . Bhupathiraju

    W_B Guest


    Especially among vampiric dentists.
    --

    W_B

    Take out the G'RBAGE
     
    W_B, May 20, 2004
    #9
  10. True and especially the ones that are in the shape of a cross
    (miniature cross).


     
    Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S., May 20, 2004
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  11. Raju . Bhupathiraju

    Dr. Steve Guest

    Hi Jan,
    One of the few disadvantages of growing up in a ethnic household which did
    not make this part of the "normal" diet. We grew up on octopus, squid,
    snails, artichokes, eggplants, lamb, goat, and of course pasta.
     
    Dr. Steve, May 23, 2004
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