Intermittent pain, 2 dentists can't identify cause

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Hello everyone,
About 6 months ago I started to get like an 'electric shock' feeling round my left top teeth.
I had two fillings to cover the dentine where the teeth had chipped.
The discomfort change to more like intermittent pain it not there all the time????
I got referred to a root canal specialist. He tooth 2 fillings out of one tooth on top left 3 from the back. He repaired a crack in the tooth and replace the two fillings.
Intermittent pain/discomfort continued.
I went back to my regular dentist to say i think it is the back left wisdom tooth because again it is painful 'sometimes' and when I close my mouth and the wisdom tooth is touched by the lower teeth it feels painful. Again I repeat it is not all the time.
I have had physic for my knee and my physic has massaged my neck and done acupuncture twice now and suggested I keep my head up and chin in.
He also questioned my pillows. I sleep on my side and I think my head is held well.
I do however feel my teeth discomfort/pain when I am in bed not moving.

Has any body help or experienced/seen these symptoms before

thank you in advance

Paul Maguire
Solihull
UK
 
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Hello everyone

I thought it may be helpful to update anybody who may have similar symptoms.

I think I had a trapped nerve in the neck/head area.

I have been having physio for my knee and the Physio did some neck massage.

I had a few sessions with a personal trainer who was also an Osteopath who did his masters in the neck.

He thought it may be Trigeminal Neuralgia because there is nerve that runs 3 ways (I think) near to the lower jaw and teeth.

I get the sensation/pain when I am driving and when I'm lying in bed.

The symptoms are random and difficult to re-create.

He said I should de-stress as much as possible. So I have cut out drinking at home and endeavoured to be more relaxed at work.

I have changed from 2 pillows to 1 pillow to keep my head perpendicular to the shoulders when lying in bed and fairly straight when lying on my back.

For the last 2 days the symptoms have gone.

I still get some minor sensations in my teeth when eating some things.
eg. today a banana that was cold after sitting in the van all day.

So my thoughts are that people should maybe look to possible trapped nerves.

I don't think my issue was teeth related.

kind Regards

Paul Maguire
 

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From https://www.tulsadentalcare.com/white-fillings-reduce-risk-of-galvanic-shock/
"Galvanic shock, a term used in dentistry for over 100 years, refers to an electric charge in your mouth between two fillings. This uncomfortable charge occurs when two metal amalgam fillings of dissimilar metal composition come together or are placed too close together. When this happens, they complete an electrochemical circuit through the soft tissue and nerves inside of your tooth. Afflicted teeth can feel painful or sensitive.

Occurrences of galvanic shock are extremely rare. Dentists train extensively in the placement of dental fillings in order to prevent this uncomfortable condition. Once upon a time, your best bet was to stick with the same dentist to ensure similar composition in every amalgam filling you received. Thanks to new technologies, dentists can now check the composition of older fillings in order to create new fillings that will not cause problems."
With composite fillings you should not experience this issue.

It is possible you may feel tiny electrical shocks through other chemically/mechanically induced means.

Make sure you are getting enough magnesium/calcium/phosphorous and eating fruits and veggies in your diet.
 

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Thank you Svor1988 it is very kind of you to have commented.

I will certainly look at the magnesium/calcium/phosphorous intake.

I have brushing my teeth with Duraphat 2800 and had some massage and 'needling' on the muscles and nerves in my neck and right jaw. I have also had some massage inside the mouth at the back between the upper and lower row of teeth.

I thought it was going really well until I went for my 6 monthly check up and the hygienist cleaned my teeth. I was back to square one in terms of pain and discomfort when eating because all the protection from the Duraphat was scrubbed away.

I get discomfort while eating for a while then it dies down (say after approx 30sec).. I am also getting some discomfort in the middle of the night from the nerves and strangely when I shower. This makes me think it is posture related - or to do with the position of the jaw/neck. So I think I have sensitive nerves which are near the surface of the tooth (top right 3 from the back) and a tooth issue which allows for the said nerve to triggered/made uncomfortable/painful.

I am continuing with the massage and using the Duraphat, using one pillow to sleep and keeping my head up and my jaw back. I will look at supplements based on your advice.

The dentists advice is if the discomfort has gone down from 8.5/10 down to between 1 & 2. Result keep doing what you are doing.

thanks again

Yours

Paul Maguire
 

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Yes, sorry I don't really see clear issues I can help you with other than to encourage you have adequate nutrition so your body can do what it does best, and keep working with your existing doctors.

If you decide on magnesium/calcium/phosphorous supplements (instead of just making sure you're getting enough from normal food), make sure not to just do one supplement (match them in a 1:1 weight ratio):
  • If you take just magnesium, then it pulls calcium out of the body/bones (L. S. PALMER et al., 1928).
  • If you do just calcium, it pulls magnesium out of your body/bones.
I've found most all magnesium supplementation ad-revenue websites fail to mention this critical issue... which probably causes a lot of people some harm.

Webmd has dosage information for magnesium, 400mg/day for me.
 

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