After Braces

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    After 2 1/2 years wearing braces , my granddaughter had them taken off recently, only to find that she had numerous cavities in her bottom teeth. She is getting them filled...but.my question is.......was it just due to poor brushing? Or was it due perhaps to other things ...such as not using fluoride toothpaste...or not getting enough calcium in her diet......or she has soft teeth? She is very embarrassed about this and upset about not cleaning her teeth enough.........but worse yet is that her mother is shaming her in front of others....which is not right... Does anyone have experience like this or thoughts to help her feel better about herself?
     
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    Brushing isn’t enough, Your granddaugher want to invest in some specialised tools to help you floss—after all the typical wax string isn’t going to get past those wires. Next time make it mothly need a to dental floss threader or a quality water flosser to dislodge food from those hard-to-reach places.
     
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    Raj Kumar Bhushan

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    You haven't mentioned age of girl. Anyway due to faulty oral hygiene and eating sticky, sweets, chocolates, milk etc. and not to brush properly this happens. It is Endodontic disease.
    Get fillings now. Guide and maintain her oral hygiene with proper brushing technique. Use toothpaste- plain with 'calcium carbonate' mentioned on rapper. No gel paste. Take adequate calcium in diet other than dairy product (paneer, soyabean, lean meat, eggs etc.).
    Once she grows up, then 'Composite resin light cure' is there to do 'rerestoration'. It comes in different shades and reliable. It will give natural texture. It is not good to demoralise. It causes stress, which results in caries & heart disease.
    Go for periodontal cleaning too (every 6 months- deep Ultrasonic scaling).
    Give her raw food (orange, carrot, apple, cabbage etc.). Give her at least 1 lemon per day squeezed in a glass of water, after meal (not with dairy foods-- milk, curd).
     
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    MattKW Verified Dentist

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    My goodness; such a strange answer.
    OK, it's a problem of poor diet and poor hygiene. She should also have been having regular dental checks by the general dentist. Please use a fluoride toothpaste, and maybe fluoride mouthrinse. The calcium level in her diet will not affect her teeth. Filling material as indicated - composites are more likely to fail and attract plaque than amalgams, so choose carefully. Please, no lemons in water - this is simply acidic.
    Raw food? Why? Normal food is fine, just cut down on junk diet if eats fast food crap.
     
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    The same thing you are saying. Calcium won't work to repair decayed tooth, this we know. Calcium is provided for better dental & bone health, overall.
    If you keep criticizing others answer, it is waste of time and lack of knowledge.
    Patient-- Lemon is vit-C food. Mixed with water , I have written. Take it regularly. It is good for Gum health (check on net and read in books). Vit-C heals wounds and good for blood formation. A doctor prescribes vit-C tablets to patient- 500mg high dose. If it is acidic, then why Dr. prescribes?).
    Light cure' composite is latest and best. He is saying bad. Amalgam carries 'mercury' which is hazardous to body (check on net).
    ** This person is only disturbing and giving opposite WRONG answer to patient. Seems to be a QUACK..
     
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    One fellow is telling you to opt for Amalgam. It is becoming outdated restoration. It contains Mercury ,which is hazardous to body (check on net). Vit- C maintains gum health (check on net). When you buy calcium carbonate based plain toothpaste (automatically nowadays flouride is coming in toothpaste). Excess flouride causes flourosis (see on net). Contact your genuine dentist and talk. If necessary then special mouth wash for flouride is prescribed but not for long time too. You can use normal mouth wash one spoon diluted with water, twice a day. Keep it in mouth for 2-3 minute before rinse it. Meet a qualified dentist.
     
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    Her teeth are already formed. Further calcium makes no difference.
    Vit C or lemon juice contains citric acid, a cause of enamel erosion. Severe lack of Vit C will lead to scurvy. High dose regimen of Vit C not shown to have any health benefits - check scientific literature.
    "Latest" is not always best. Amalgam is an intermetallic phase of the Hg/Ag/Sn inorganic compound that is not absorbed by body.
     
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    @MattKW criticised your opinion (which is allowed - discussions helps us all learn) whereas you criticised him personally (which is not allowed). Further infractions will result in a forum ban. You have the right to an opinion, but you do not have the right for your opinion to be accepted.
     
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    Fine. I would like to disconnect. How to disconnect?
    How to delete profile?
     
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    Ok. I want to disconnect. How to delete profile?
     
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    You haven't read my reply properly. Lemon with a glass of 'water'. (All over the World people uses lemon water. What are you simply saying??) I too know enamel erosion may cause by acidic/citric food, if taken directly for long time. > 2000mg/day vit-C may be harmful to body. But not clear connection. It may cause oxalates formation in kidney, indigestion, distress etc. Vit-C high dose is good for Intelligence, blood iron absorption. It is water soluble, so not to worry. Average 1000 mg/day can be taken either safe.
    FDA latest- Mercury vapour does release from Mercury of Amalgam. Though it is considered ok for child & adult. But FDA doesn't deny any Mercury related no possibility of lung disease (by release of vapour from Amalgam). So it is people's choice. Take Amalgam restoration at your own risk.
    Calcium importance for body--- hope you study medical journal, how much daily calcium is required for "maintaining bone density" for an adult and a kid. Tooth comes under this too. Calcium is the prime mineral needed by body. Unless bone density loss leads to fragile bone, may leads to osteoporosis. Dose should not exceed maximum. On an average, it 'must' be taken by people (ask Dr./dentist for required dose).
     
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    Linus Pauling- Chemistry Noble prize winner, 1954.
    Books- 1970, Vit --C and common cold
    1979, Vit-C & cancer
    1986, How to feel better & live longer.
    --- Vit C taken in large doses 2000mg/day may protect a person from cold & flu. It may protect from cancer. Intelligence increases with high doses.
    --- Though use of chronic very high doses (>5000mg/day) may leads to kidney deposition. But not clearly linked.
    Linus himself was taking a very high dose of 10000 mg/day.
     
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    MattKW Verified Dentist

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    Check the listing for Linus Pauling out at Wikipedia, and go down to sub-heading entitled:
    Medical research and vitamin C advocacy "The failure of the clinical trials to demonstrate any benefit resulted in the conclusion that vitamin C was not effective in treating cancer; the medical establishment concluded that his claims that vitamin C could prevent colds or treat cancer were quackery." Which just shows that even Nobel Prize winners can make mistakes when they venture outside of their area of expertise.
     
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    Wiki is written by anyone as a member, do you know this? Any fraud/illeterate can go and put content there. Wiki is a junkyard. Linus was a Noble prize winner. (Check on net how to make own page and put content in Wikipedia).
    NIH, Dr. Steve Hickey, Hilary Roberts , Ann intern med 140/(7), 533-7.
    Check, what a medical doctor says about it? Also the same thing what you said, was published after 20 yrs of death of Linus. But in latest NIH reports by Dr. Steve it is admitted that Linus was ' RIGHT'. Also for cardiovascular (to reduce cholesterol, it can be given). Dr. Ewan Cameron admitted the benefit of high doses of vit C for cancer patients. Dr. Abram Hoffer & Dr. Hugh riordon supported evidence at Mayo clinic. Mayo clinic tried to reject theory by claiming low dose of vit C but failed. Doses by injection or oral causes huge difference in body. So oral is not rejected. Rene Debos, biologist supported theory after decades of practical done on patients. Human would have a reserve of vit C (40 gms) in our body, mostly in adrenal cortex. Hence high doses just flow out of body because it is 'water soluble'. There is NO clear evidence of ' oxalates or kidney stone' formation in body only because of vit C excess.
    For more authentic info-- Linus Pauling- Institute, Oregan state University, Oregan.
     
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    I couldn't find any, "But in latest NIH reports by Dr. Steve..." and would appreciate a hyperlink. But I did find this at the NIH: https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminC-HealthProfessional/ for you. It's not effusive support for high-dose Vit C. Also go to the Cochrane Collaboration - again, nothing startling there. This little sub-thread started because you said that Vit C was "...good for Gum health", and I would agree that an adequate diet of Vit C is good for gum health, but that's a lot different from high-dose Vit C, and you've drifted a long way into the common cold, cancers, and cardiovascular disease where the evidence is unreliable. At best it remains a supplement for specific subgroups, and according to the NIH website, "...The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not approved the use of IV high-dose vitamin C as a treatment for cancer or any other medical condition."
     
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    NIH has NOT denied the Linus theory. Also plz read my post properly. For cancer etc. individual and mayo clinic experiment is done, not everywhere NIH. FDA has nothing to do with it. Neither it is a concept to treat disease not it is any medicine. They have limitation of authority.
    But this things what we are talking, is a matter of Research and findings.
    www.medicalnewstoday.com
    Vitamin C, Linus Pauling- was right all along, a doctor's opinion.
    Dr. Hilary Roberts
    17 Aug, 2004
     
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    MattKW Verified Dentist

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    Are you actually a dentist, a doctor, or have any degree in medically-related training? It just seems that you have certain theories that keep recurring (here and other posts), even though I've given you the links to " ...Research and findings" that would help you.
     
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    I think you don't read my post properly or links and dedicated to argue only. Read links and then talk. What am I , you shouldn't bother about it. Just stuck with topic and make a habit to learn more. Eienstein said-- the whole life is even not enough to learn. I believe in learning not in telling only opposite/wrong. Bye.
     
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    Love you too :)
     
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