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Fawks
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      10-28-2005, 01:09 AM


I did a little searching on our visiting dentist. What
could be the financial interest that would drive someone
to be anti-endo?

IMPLANTS!

It turns out that Dr. K is a member of the International
Congress of Oral Implantologists.

He mentions the profitability of endo, but he doesn't mention
that you can beat endo profits by the bucketfull with
implants!

All I have to do is tell every new patient with a root
canal that these teeth are poison. I extract them and sell
them an implant. Of course there is no reason to learn
how to do a decent root canal if I can make more money selling
more implants.

Truth hurts,
Dartos

 
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      10-28-2005, 03:33 AM

Fawks wrote:
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> I did a little searching on our visiting dentist. What
> could be the financial interest that would drive someone
> to be anti-endo?
>
> IMPLANTS!
>
> It turns out that Dr. K is a member of the International
> Congress of Oral Implantologists.
>
> He mentions the profitability of endo, but he doesn't mention
> that you can beat endo profits by the bucketfull with
> implants!


Err, are you sure? This poor guy can't even afford a functioning
computer:

wrote:
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> My computer has a glitch that prevents going back and
> correcting typo's or editing wihout losing the entire text and other
> fun things.
 
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Joel M. Eichen
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      10-28-2005, 11:23 AM
Interesting discussion ... .with much merit.

Let's hear from others .......



Joely





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>On 27 Oct 2005 18:09:22 -0700, "Fawks" <> wrote:
Quote:
>
>
>I did a little searching on our visiting dentist. What
>could be the financial interest that would drive someone
>to be anti-endo?
>
>IMPLANTS!
>
>It turns out that Dr. K is a member of the International
>Congress of Oral Implantologists.
>
>He mentions the profitability of endo, but he doesn't mention
>that you can beat endo profits by the bucketfull with
>implants!
>
>All I have to do is tell every new patient with a root
>canal that these teeth are poison. I extract them and sell
>them an implant. Of course there is no reason to learn
>how to do a decent root canal if I can make more money selling
>more implants.
>
>Truth hurts,
>Dartos
 
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      10-28-2005, 03:12 PM
On 27 Oct 2005 18:09:22 -0700, "Fawks" <> wrote:
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>
>I did a little searching on our visiting dentist. What
>could be the financial interest that would drive someone
>to be anti-endo?
>
>IMPLANTS!
>
>It turns out that Dr. K is a member of the International
>Congress of Oral Implantologists.
>
>He mentions the profitability of endo, but he doesn't mention
>that you can beat endo profits by the bucketfull with
>implants!
>
>All I have to do is tell every new patient with a root
>canal that these teeth are poison. I extract them and sell
>them an implant. Of course there is no reason to learn
>how to do a decent root canal if I can make more money selling
>more implants.
>
>Truth hurts,
>Dartos
Veddy Interesting.

Good work D'Artangnan.
--

W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE

 
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somebody
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      10-28-2005, 04:14 PM
Wow. I cannot believe how "crooked' some dentists are.
Makes me feel sick actually. -Sue

 
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      10-29-2005, 11:20 AM
Fawks,

I think Dr. K will have to justify how in the world are dental implants
safe when he completely knocks RCT.

Afterall, think of the possibility of bone infection... screwing an
anchor screw into the bone .. or pounding it in or whatever you guys
do....

Sue

 
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      10-30-2005, 11:12 AM
On 29 Oct 2005 04:20:37 -0700, "somebody" <> wrote:
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>Fawks,
>
>I think Dr. K will have to justify how in the world are dental implants
>safe when he completely knocks RCT.
Kulacz is speaking through his hat .......

And I do not believe his story about cooties either.



Joel

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>Afterall, think of the possibility of bone infection... screwing an
>anchor screw into the bone .. or pounding it in or whatever you guys
>do....
>
>Sue
 
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      10-31-2005, 01:36 AM

somebody wrote:
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> Wow. I cannot believe how "crooked' some dentists are.
> Makes me feel sick actually. -Sue

Dr. Kulacz is not crooked, and has he pointed out in his
other posts he does not do implants. But thanks Fawks (or Dartos), for
finally admitting how profitable implants and the RC procedures REALLY
are in your failed attempt to discredit.

And how funny you think that pulling teeth and doing implants
is such a raquet, because AHem, isn't that WHAT 99% of oral
surgeons do. I sure haven't found any near me that do
'real jaw surgery'.


What Dr. Kulacz DOES is oral surgery and a lot of it. Osteonecrosis
surgery, Osteomyletis surgery, surgery to
save teeth, to clean out infections caused by infected teeth etc.
1000's of cases, many difficult, some on celebrities. Surgery into the
Sinus, Surgery with ENTS who come through the nose. The REAL surgery
that dentists and oral surgeons SHOULD know how to do. He is probably
one of the most skilled surgeons in the country. It is the exclusive
focus of his practice.

I know someone who had surgery done by Dr. Kulacz and when their
stitches where removed by the local dentist, the dentist with very high
standards who had NEVER given out a compliment practicaly leapt out
into the waiting room and exclaimed: what superb expert stitching! An
expert job! I am surprised by how deep and well done the stitching was!
First class work really!


Dr. Kulacz is well known by individauls in the jaw infection groups and
has a very good reputation with patients, although as you may guess
this whole area is filled with controversy and that
controversy follows patient assessment of the Major Univerity
Oral Surgery centers (most of which are quite lame and uniformed
in this area, according to the assessment of Jaw infection patients).
That's a FACT!

(( By the way Marx NO LONGER treats osteonecrosis or osteomyletis and
has not for years (if he ever did a really
good job of it), so please, for the LOOVVVEE
of GODDD, STOP referring people to Marx on this list!))


AS FAR as money is concerned DR. Kulacz has stated that he actually
lost money some months, and as has been pointed out upteen , times, in
this kind of business, if he were truly crooked ("in my opinion", I
don't want to get sued by the cavitat company ) he could easily use the
cavitat to boost profits. This kind of surgery evidently is time
consuming,
difficult and NOT profitable. Dr. Kulacz has also spent many hours on
the phone and on email helping patients for FREE! And he
charged LESS than other dentists/surgeons doing this specialized type
of surgery! Jaw infection patients TELL ME that!!!

As Joel pointed out in the other thread he has even done surgery
and I understand (don't quote me if i am mistaken) greatly helped
James Earl Jones who wrote the forward to his book.

Again, Dr. Kulacz works with a lot of Jaw infections patients I talk
with and is one of the few dentists (INCLUDING SUPPOSEDLY MAJOR ORAL
SURGERY CENTERS AT UNIVERSITIES) that do this kind of
work. Guess why? Undoubtedly $$$$$$. Treating patients to cure them
from profitable procedures is not a money maker and is specialized hard
work and with the attendent attention to medical treatment required of
the doctor is something 99% of dentists and OS's will avoid like a
plague!

By the way the whole situation with treatment of jaw infection Is
another shame and disgrace of the dental/medical industry in addition
to the problems with amalgam. WE (they, I) Know you don't know what you
are doing. WE KNOW! So stop trying to hide it and attack some of the
few people who are really trying to help!

THIS IS NOT my opinion this is the opinion of MANY jaw infections
patients I have spoken with (most who have no concern with amalgam
either). This is what the patients are saying. This is what the
PATIENTS ARE SPEAKING!!! TAKE my word for it AS GOD IS MY WITNESS

And Shame on you. Shame on you Fawks(or Dartos, you truly no nothing to
make the baseless statements you have. And shame on
the non-dental posters, who follow this baloney like the mob following
the pied piper.

EASY to tear down and attack, but hard to build something
up and discuss the issues intelligently and investigate!

Kulacz is the just opposite. In time you will see this.


This is the big leagues people. Not the minor leagues, , and these
dentists who rarely venture into the world of this kind of surgery and
spend little time worrying about how to treat complex jaw infections
and the medical implications indeed are well over their heads and
making big fools of themselves.

Okay, enough said.

cz

 
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      10-31-2005, 01:48 AM

Fawks wrote:
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> I did a little searching on our visiting dentist. What
> could be the financial interest that would drive someone
> to be anti-endo?
>
> IMPLANTS!
>
> It turns out that Dr. K is a member of the International
> Congress of Oral Implantologists.
>
> He mentions the profitability of endo, but he doesn't mention
> that you can beat endo profits by the bucketfull with
> implants!
Detective Cousteau is on the case! Wrong! But thanks again for
showing us HOW YOU THINK
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> All I have to do is tell every new patient with a root
> canal that these teeth are poison. I extract them and sell
> them an implant.
Congratulations! you have succintly analyzed what most Oral
Surgeons do, extractions and implants, and put a few screws
into a fractured jaw now and then. They don't really
SEEM TO KNOW how to do real surgery? They are especially frady cats
when they get near the Sinus. Why is that? I'd really like
to know your thoughts on this issue Fawks. However, this does not apply
to Dr. Kulacz.
Quote:
> Of course there is no reason to learn
> how to do a decent root canal if I can make more money selling
> more implants.
>
> Truth hurts,
> Dartos
Ouch!
Making a Full apology when you realize YOU don't know
what you are talking about hurts even more....

 
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      10-31-2005, 02:21 AM

Steven Bornfeld wrote:
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> Clinton wrote:
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> What do you mean exactly when you say you haven't found any near you
> that do "real jaw surgery"?
> How much do you really know about what oral surgeons do?


At this point I suppose I know a lot more than I should, though
obviously there is a whole lot I do not know. And I have talked to many
oral surgeons. The oral surgeon down the street told me he didn't want
to take my case because it was too complex. He also said that he has
gone near the sinus before, but evidently doesn't make a habit of it.
The first Oral Surgeon i went to caused the problem on the CT you saw.

Do you disagree that osteonecrosis and osteomlyetic type and other
kinds of jaw infection surgery is specialized. This is the common
expierence of many jaw infection patients, that local OS'S and (many
univeristy OS'S) feel uncomfortable doing this kind of surgery, reading
x-rays such as CT scans,
and even interpreting panorexs, and genrally seem unequipped for
anything
but the most simple procedures.

I wish I could say they found their local OS'S to be helpful, skilled
and expierenced, but evidently, most aren't too expierenced in any
kind of "real surgery", because many jaw infection patients i have
talked to have trouble finding any local OS's to take their case, and
many dentists and OS's who do attempt these kind of surgies actually
end up making the patient worse apparently as a result of poor surgical
technique and failure to treat with appropriate antiboitics.



cz

 
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