WHY do all UPPER partial dentures have to be so BIG

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    atlantic965 Guest

    atlantic965, Dec 18, 2005
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    Whamatus Guest

    On 17 Dec 2005 19:01:37 -0800, "atlantic965" <>
    wrote:
    First off you have done a dis-service to all 1959 Lincolns.
    (though I'm a '57 Caddy man myself) 8^]] A Valplast "partial" is a piss-poor substitute for what is
    correctly called a Removable Partial Denture (RPD).
    In fact it is a piss-poor substitute for a Transitional Denture.
    (one that is designed for the eventual loss of more teeth;
    i.e transitioning from a partial to full denture)
    This is an example of a Cast Frame RPD.
    The prosthetic teeth are denture teeth on a denture base.
    Alas, this is for a lower.

    Depending on the number and arrangement of the remaining teeth
    the RPD cast framework can have many different designs.
    However the design is limited by the aforementioned
    'number and arrangement of the remaining teeth' and which
    arch we are discussing (upper v. lower).

    If you can post a picture of your very own RPD perhaps I can suggest
    a design more suitable to your situation. E-mail is ok too.

    Don't despair, all is not lost.

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    Whamatus
    Whamatus, Dec 18, 2005
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    Whamatus Guest

    On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 03:46:25 GMT, Steven Bornfeld
    <> wrote:
    Have made a few of those.
    Some patients tolerate them fairly well.
    The major problem with this design is that it can flex,
    which leads to periodontal stresses and eventual
    pathology of the abutment teeth.

    IMO an open palate with a posterior strap is a better design.

    Have also made the anterior frame with 'loops' .
    It's half partial and half denture.
    the advantage is that you can construct a post-dam.

    It's a wierd bird that one of my instructors
    (retired USAF prosthodontist) taught me.

    Have one that has been in service for over 15 yrs
    without any problems. The key thing is that these are
    very easy to reline or rebase and are very stable.
    There has been no periodontal pathology on the remaining teeth.
    (#'s 6 - 11)
    Downside is that it covers the palate, and this seems to be
    this particular dudes chief complaint.
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    Whamatus, Dec 18, 2005
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    Whamatus Guest

    On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:31:34 GMT, Steven Bornfeld
    <> wrote:
    Seems that we are on the same page once again.
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    Whamatus, Dec 18, 2005
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    Joel Guest

    Actually, the seond partial denture is like a 1949 Edsel.
    Basically its a lower so it will not fit the upper.

    Joel
    Joel, Dec 18, 2005
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    atlantic965 Guest

    Edsel's did not exist until 1956 or 57. I was trying to say that the
    upper partials I have tried felt like someone shoved a 1959 Lincoln :

    http://www.americandreamcars.com/1959continental011503.htm

    Up my mouth. I hate that big part that hits the roof of the mouth and
    makes it hard to chew and speak. I wish I could afford implants.
    atlantic965, Dec 19, 2005
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    JimSocal Guest

    On 18 Dec 2005 18:05:44 -0800, "atlantic965" <>
    wrote:
    I feel for you.

    I was in a position where my dentist recommended 2 partial plates, and
    yet he told me outright that many people cannot tolerate them and that
    it takes a big commitment to learn to get used to them, to speak with
    them, and so on.

    Knowing how I HATE any little thing different in my mouth, like when a
    crown is made ever so slightly wrong, with something sticking out that
    my tongue rubs against, I chose to go for implants even though I
    cannot afford them. I just knew that partial plates would drive me
    nuts.

    I wonder if you might be able to get one or two implants at a dental
    school (about $1-2k each) and then use those to bridge some other
    teeth to...?

    On the bright side, they say that if you try real hard and make a
    commitment to the partial plate you CAN get used to it after 6 months
    or so. If you've already got it you may as well try to get used to
    it...

    Good luck!
    JimSocal, Dec 19, 2005
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    atlantic965 Guest

    Thought about traveling to COSTA RICA to have implants, Lots of good
    modern clinics down there. Worse for me was from 1996 to 1999 I paid a
    dentist close to $20,000 to crown all my teeth, he did not do the
    uppers correctly and by 2001 problems were appearing , they told me
    because more than a year had passed to drop dead. I complained to the
    state dental board but there are no rules or regulations on how long a
    dentist has to warranty his work.
    atlantic965, Dec 19, 2005
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    Sdores Guest

    I got a bridge for my lower teeth and loved it. It did take a little time
    to get used to esp. the metal clips to the teeth but I was a happy camper.
    I am using past terms as my bridge broke and I haven't been able to get to
    the dentist do to my crohn's flaring up badly which doesn't allow me to sit
    in the chair long enough. But it is hopefully in my near future to get my
    dental work done and a new bridge in place along with getting my upper full
    denture fitted again. I am again in a bad flare that just started due to a
    stricture, I got a partial blockage again. I am really getting frustrated
    about all this already. Any ideas about how I can get to the dentist and
    get the work done? I have one tooth that needs major care and another that
    has a small cavity coming up from under the gum line. I do have absorption
    issues and unfortunately it is hurting the teeth I have left. Just for the
    record, others on the crohn's site, two of them I go to, along with a friend
    I have locally also have dental problems do to crohn's or UC. Thanks for
    any help. UM MOM Susan
    "JimSocal" <> wrote in message
    news:eek:...
    Sdores, Dec 19, 2005
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    jcar

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    partial dilemmas

    Well after having valplast partials for several months, I have to say that eating with them makes me long for the days when I had my molars. The experience of eating with partials, even good partials like valplasts, is like nothing else. My teeth become stuck with all kinds of food debris and particles. It is like having a mouth full of mush. I can't wait to take them out when the meal is through. If I did not immediately floss and brush, I'm sure I would be in danger of even more cavities.

    Let me vent by saying, though I am thankful that at least now I CAN eat (it's better than having NO molars) the enjoyment of eating has been greatly reduced. Now it's more a matter of mechanical chopping and swallowing to get the job done. Someday in Heaven I will have a full set of teeth. I have heard of miracles where God supernaturally and suddenly replaced peoples' teeth which I am asking for, but not holding my breath on, LOL.

    The upshot of all this is, take great care of the teeth you have. The alternative is not fun.
    jcar, Jan 14, 2009
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