Overcoming Invisalign sharp edge painful tongue using chewing gum

Discussion in 'Dental Archive' started by pamelafiischer@yahoo.com, Nov 15, 2005.

  1. Guest

    Is there an accepted way to overcome Align Technology Invisalign sharp
    edges?

    The dentist didn't tell me my tongue would be ripped to shreds. I'm
    sure calluses will form over the course of a year, but, these new
    Invisalign plastic inserts sure are sharp!

    For my five thousand dollars paid to the dentist and to Align
    Technology, I would have expected a better fit and less sharpness. Of
    course I went back to the dentist (twice) who shaved off bits and
    pieces here and there, but, he only did it for the first three aligners
    and the first set (which I am wearing now) STILL cuts my tongue to
    shreds.

    I would think there would be a way to soften the edges so that they
    aren't so sharp. Sort of like what they do with swim goggles and scuba
    masks by ensuring the edges aren't sharp.

    One idea I am thinking of doing is add a bit of chewing gum to the
    edges, especially under the front where it seems to still be very
    sharp. Has anyone had success using chewing gum to dull the pain of the
    sharp Invisalign edges?

    Does anyone have better ideas for me to lessen the sharpness of the
    Invisalign edges?

    Pamela
    , Nov 15, 2005
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  2. Guest

    wrote:
    I ended up sanding them down with a nail file but they still hurt.

    I wish there were a known method to blunt the sharp edges of the
    Invisalign retainers, especially at the rear two sides (where my tonge
    is widest so it hits the edges) and at the front below the lower
    incisors (where the edge is a mm from the gumline leaving a gap for the
    tip of my tongue to shred).

    Any help for a poor lost soul?

    Pamela
    , Nov 20, 2005
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  3. Roy Brown Guest

    Just go back to the person that provided them and ask for them to be adjusted or
    pumiced/polished. If they won't do that, find yourself another person that does
    invisalign that is willing to take over your treatment.

    A quick fix might be to just use some ortho wax that they use to make braces
    more comfortable.

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    <> wrote in message
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    | wrote:
    | > Is there an accepted way to overcome Align Technology Invisalign sharp
    | > edges?
    |
    | I ended up sanding them down with a nail file but they still hurt.
    |
    | I wish there were a known method to blunt the sharp edges of the
    | Invisalign retainers, especially at the rear two sides (where my tonge
    | is widest so it hits the edges) and at the front below the lower
    | incisors (where the edge is a mm from the gumline leaving a gap for the
    | tip of my tongue to shred).
    |
    | Any help for a poor lost soul?
    |
    | Pamela
    |
    Roy Brown, Nov 21, 2005
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  4. How about hitting the edge with a Hanau torch ?

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    Philip Atooth, Nov 21, 2005
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  5. Re: Overcoming Invisalign sharp edge painful tongue using chewinggum

    Philip Atooth wrote:
    I would be concerned about dimensional distortion away from the edge.
    Maybe if I had it on a model.

    Steve

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    Mark & Steven Bornfeld, Nov 21, 2005
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  6. Guest

    Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:
    Hey, I wonder. You may be on to something.
    Just like a pair of swimming goggles has a "gasket", these Invisalign
    retainers of sharp plastic also need a gasket edge.

    The Hanau torch should work but I am a mere layperson. However, I did
    try heating up a butterknife on the range and used that to judiciously
    "soften" the particular edges that were hurting my tongue.

    This softening of the hard sharp edges seemed to soothe the edges a bit
    but I was afraid to do too much comfort adjusting for fear of wrecking
    the material.

    I also tried putting chewing gum over the edge - which works fine -
    except that I keep getting the gum stuck all over the place within a
    few hours of being on the Invisalign sharp edged retainers.

    Why they don't tell us this stuff in the informed-consent agreement,
    I'll never know,
    Pamela Fischer
    , Nov 22, 2005
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  7. I have never tried it, but would think that if you adjust the torch to a
    soft feather flame and brush the flame lightly, it would just round the
    sharp edges without changing the contour. Not something for a lay-person to
    try at all.

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    Philip Atooth, Nov 22, 2005
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  8. Re: Overcoming Invisalign sharp edge painful tongue using chewinggum

    wrote:
    I don't know if there's a problem with Invisalign. I am a former
    Invisalign patient myself, and I never had a problem with rough edges.
    I would have the dentist complain--they may be willing to re-examine the
    rest of the aligners and correct the problem. You shouldn't have to
    suffer with this through the whole series.

    Steve

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    http://www.dentaltwins.com
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    718-258-5001
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld, Nov 22, 2005
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  9. On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 12:41:01 GMT, "Philip Atooth"
    <> wrote:
    If my boss knew I was posting this he'd kill me but I would like to
    reasure you almost everyone has severe pain with the Invisalign system
    in our office the first week. Most can't stand them.

    Within a month, about half the patients we see get used to the
    sharpness. But there are some, like you, who can't stand the
    sharpness. We used to burr them off but found that the rough edges
    were just as bad as the sharp edges.

    My advice is to use conventional braces. They are are not only
    cheaper, but they don't leave your tongue white with cuts.
    Boris T. Gunner, Dec 3, 2005
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  10. Re: Overcoming Invisalign sharp edge painful tongue using chewinggum

    Boris T. Gunner wrote:

    Wow. I had no pain with my aligners, and I'm the biggest sissy I know.

    Steve

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    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld, Dec 3, 2005
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  11. Re: Overcoming Invisalign sharp edge painful tongue using chewinggum

    The Webby wrote:

    Pretty durn big.
    On topic, I can say that there is in fact some discomfort involved with
    Invisalign, but I can't imagine that it is any greater than traditional
    fixed appliances (or removable appliances, for that matter). Why an
    errant sharp edge can't be smoothed I cannot say either. Perhaps there
    is distortion somewhere between the impression and the delivery of the
    aligner, so that the edge stands away from the teeth or tissue. If this
    is the case, the aligners IMO should be remade.

    Steve

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    http://www.dentaltwins.com
    Brooklyn, NY
    718-258-5001
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld, Dec 3, 2005
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  12. Re: Overcoming Invisalign sharp edge painful tongue using chewinggum

    The Webby wrote:

    I think I am prevented from posting that information by HIPAA.

    Steve

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    http://www.dentaltwins.com
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    718-258-5001
    Mark & Steven Bornfeld, Dec 3, 2005
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  13. Stovepipe Guest

    Mark & Steven Bornfeld <> wrote:
    What about taking the SofLex disks (3M) to the edges? If it works for me
    for the NTI, it should work on an Invisalign retainter.

    SP
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    Stovepipe, Dec 5, 2005
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  14. Stephen D Guest

    "Steven Bornfeld" <> wrote in message
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    I've never used Invisalign, but having worked in an orthodontics lab and
    fabricated clear retainers, I found that you can achieve a pretty smooth
    edge with a fine/very fine cross-cut cone shapped acrylic bur. It takes a
    little bit of time though, but it seems to work well.

    --Stephen D
    Stephen D, Dec 5, 2005
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  15. Stovepipe Guest

    Stephen D <> wrote:
    Thanks for that advice, but I for one don't quite get this: Is this cone
    a standard lab cone, or is it something special? I don't have any of
    those, but hearing you describe this cone, I'd be tempted to take a fine
    stone inverted cone on the straight handpiece to the edges. I've done
    that to sharp edges on the NTI as well.
    Thanks
    SP
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    Stovepipe, Dec 7, 2005
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  16. Stephen D Guest

    "Stovepipe" <> wrote in message
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    I'm not really sure what the technical name for this shape is, but the bur
    that I used for most projects like this was something like this:
    http://dedeco.com/images/products/8372.gif or similarly:
    http://dedeco.com/images/products/8374.gif (after a quick search on google)
    If this allows HTML:

    <img src="http://dedeco.com/images/products/8372.gif">
    <img src="http://dedeco.com/images/products/8374.gif">

    I did try to use a white stone a few times, but that was usually for final
    touches where needed as it seemed to be a little slower going than the fine
    cross-cut. It was also technique too that helped--I would use small strokes
    along the edge angling the bur toward the inside or outside of the appliance
    and then make a second pass with it more perpendicular to the edge to
    effectively obtain a "rounded" edge. This might not be the fastest way to
    do it, but during our busy times (i.e. the weeks before Doc's vacations), we
    were able to take an impression, use quick set stone, and have a smooth
    clear retainer to the patient in about 20-30 minutes!


    --Stephen
    Stephen D, Dec 7, 2005
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  17. Stovepipe Guest

    Stephen D <> wrote:
    This is fine. Thanks for the ideas and the links. You should stick
    around. We need good tech advice like this.
    Thanks
    SP
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    Stovepipe, Dec 8, 2005
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  18. Stephen D Guest

    "Stovepipe" <> wrote in message
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    Thank you! I guess I never did give a proper introduction to myself. I'm
    actually a first year dental student at the University of Kentucky college
    of dentistry, and I've worked with an orthodontist from 1997 to technically
    the present, though not as much lately with classes. I was able to give
    this lab advice because the orthodontist didn't use an outside lab--we'd
    just make everything in the in-office lab. I also worked with the patients
    doing regular adjustments, records, and digital imaging.

    So far I'm really enjoying dental school, and I'm always looking for "real
    world" information so I decided to start reading this news group last week.
    I look forward to hearing more from everyone!

    --Stephen
    Stephen D, Dec 8, 2005
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  19. As long as your name is Steve, you can post here. All others need to get a
    special permit.

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    Amatus Cremona, Dec 8, 2005
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  20. Re: Overcoming Invisalign sharp edge painful tongue using chewinggum

    Stephen D wrote:
    You gotta cut that out!!

    Steve

    and I'm always looking for "real

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    Mark & Steven Bornfeld, Dec 8, 2005
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