Food stuck between molars

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  1. Guest

    Hi,

    I was wondering if someone could help me understand the pain I
    experience whenever food seems to get stuck between the first and second
    molars of the upper teeth.

    I notice the gums between the two molars seem rather sore. Not sure
    though whether this could be the result of the stuck food irritating the
    gums.

    I notice this problem only started after I had a filling or crown done
    to any of the teeth involved.

    The dentist who did the work cannot seem to help me.

    What can I do to fix this problem? TIA.
     
    , Jan 22, 2004
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  3. wrote:
    Your observation that this started after a filling or crown is telling.
    The contact is probably open (space between teeth) as Paul says, or else
    there is an overhang or projecting piece of filling or margin of the crown.
    Either way, the dentist can and should be able to help you. It may mean
    re-doing the filling or crown. You shouldn't be charged, either.

    Steve


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    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS, Jan 22, 2004
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  4. Guest

    , Jan 22, 2004
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  5. Guest

    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS wrote:
    I believe he did redo one of the fillings on the left side but it didn't solve
    the problem.
    He claims the problem is due to loss of bone tissue, which I find hard to
    believe, because there was no such problem prior to his restoration.
     
    , Jan 22, 2004
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  6. Guest

    Paul wrote:
    There is definitely no resistance for the teeth on the right side of the mouth.
    As for the left side, there is a slight resistance.
     
    , Jan 22, 2004
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  7. wrote:
    Can't totally discount his explanation, but I'd put my money on yours, esp. if
    this is the area that floss slips passively between your teeth without
    resistance. If this is a white resin filling that extends between the teeth, it
    is sometimes hard to get a good firm contact. Hard--but it can be done. It
    definitely should be, esp. if you have periodontal problems. If you don't have
    perio problems, you will have them with the open contact.

    Steve


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    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS, Jan 22, 2004
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  8. That is one approach, but first one needs a diagnosis and even more
    important, is the new filling causing a food impaction area? First I
    would replace the filling ........


    Joel

    On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:43:18 +0800, wrote:
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  9. NOYB Guest

    "Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS" <> wrote in message
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    telling.
    crown.
    Steve,
    How do you handle the situation where you do a crown on #2 or 15, the mesial
    contact is tight when it's placed, but is wide open 1 1/2 years later when
    you see the patient for a recall appointment? I know teeth should undergo
    mesial drift, but sometimes 2nd molars seem to move distally. I've replaced
    several of these at no charge, but I'm getting tired of redoing work for
    free to correct a problem that mother nature seems to be creating.
     
    NOYB, Jan 24, 2004
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  10. NOYB wrote:
    This does happen to me, though I don't see it too often. If there's
    an amalgam contacting the crown it's an easy call to replace the amalgam
    and observe. But if the drift continues, replacing the crown isn't the
    answer. Usually these are perio patients, and I tell the patients may
    need to have the teeth splinted, however that is accomplished.
    Obviously I charge for this.

    Steve

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    Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS, Jan 24, 2004
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  11. Dr. Steve Guest

    Think parafunction and occlusal contact on the mesial slope of the lower
    cusp against the distal slope of the upper cusp if the lower tooth has moved
    distally. Sometimes, reversing this cuspal incline contact will push the
    molar mesially again. Other times, you have to replace the restoration, but
    carefully equilibrate the cuspal contact points.

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  12. WB Guest

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 10:49:45 GMT, "NOYB" <> wrote:
    You must adjust to occlusion to 'mesialize' the second molar.

    Think about it.

    WB
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    WB, Jan 25, 2004
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  13. WB Guest

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:34:48 -0500, Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS <> wrote:
    Dude, this is one situation where the occlusal contacts may
    be designed to 'mesialize' the second molar.

    Use the occlusal contacts of the second molars orthodontically.

    WB
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    WB, Jan 25, 2004
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  14. WB Guest

    On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:57:40 GMT, "Dr. Steve" <> wrote:
    Exactl.

    But an 'over explanation' of a very simple concept.
    The ortho's use the occlusion to position the teeth.
    We *all* should as well.

    WB
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    WB, Jan 25, 2004
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  15. Dr. Steve Guest

    "Over-explanation" ? ?? ? ?? I just had lunch with Otto yesterday. I
    think I was rather brief!

    [Sorry Otto, I know you will smile while reading this.]

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  16. WB Guest

    On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:08:30 GMT, "Dr. Steve" <> wrote:

    Was yanking your chain dude.
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    WB, Jan 25, 2004
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