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Root canal failures? How often? When?

 
 
oralhealth@comcast.net
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      08-27-2008, 10:13 PM
Most root canals do not fail today when the cause of the root canal is
decay.

When a root canal is performed because of acute pain in the tooth,
there is a higher failure. This higher failure rate is due to
cracked teeth.

I believe posterior teeth have a higher failure rate when they are put
in group function and/or balancing side function.

I believe MTA should be used in teeth that need root canals because of
hairline fractures.

What is very surprising is when you see successful root canals done
in third world countries and in Europe when the canals are only filled
1/2 way. The question is why are they so successful?

I learned the Shilder technique, but as long as the canal is clean,
any technique should work.

Posts and occlusion can cause failure.

I tell patients dead tissue and necrosis is why root canals are
needed. Do they have to be infected with bacteria? no!

Do cracked teeth cause necrosis?


David DiBenedetto, DMD, AUTHOR, "Insider's guide to gum disease,
orthodontics and dentistry. What is not taught in dental school."


 
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      08-28-2008, 11:20 PM
On Aug 28, 8:46*am, Dartos <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote:
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Quote:
> > I believe posterior teeth have a higher failure rate when they are put
> > in *group function and/or balancing side function.
>
> Close, but no cigar.
>
> It isn't the group function, it is the parafunction.
>
> ;-)
> D
That's where we disagree. I feel group function is a parafunction.
Why is the Maxillary canine the strongest tooth in the mouth? To
take lateral forces.
 
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kris-polanowski
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      08-29-2008, 01:13 PM
On Aug 28, 12:13*am, oralhea...@comcast.net wrote:
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> Most root canals do not fail today when the cause of the root canal is
> decay.
>
> When a root canal is performed because of acute pain in the tooth,
> there is a higher failure. * This higher failure rate is due to
> cracked teeth.
>
> I believe posterior teeth have a higher failure rate when they are put
> in *group function and/or balancing side function.
>
> I believe MTA should be used in teeth that need root canals because of
> hairline fractures.
>
> What is very surprising is when you see successful root canals *done
> in third world countries and in Europe when the canals are only filled
> 1/2 way. * *The question is why are they so successful?
>
> I learned the *Shilder technique, *but as long as the canal is clean,
> any technique should work.
>
> Posts and occlusion can cause failure.
>
> I tell patients dead tissue and necrosis is why root canals are
> needed. * Do they have to be infected with bacteria? *no!
>
> Do cracked teeth cause necrosis?
>
> David DiBenedetto, DMD, AUTHOR, "Insider's guide to gum disease,
> orthodontics and dentistry. *What is not taught in dental school."
hmm

I am taking part from years in discussion, some on dentaltown in
prosthodontics section..
I saw many better job made in 3th countires and in Afrcica like in
USA.
It doesnt depends on country it depends on DENTISTS and patients
economy situation.
I have many patients from USA , from time to time from Russia . The
quality of dental treatments
depends on many factors

regards kris Polanowski DDS Poland
 
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      08-30-2008, 06:18 AM
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:46:11 -0500, Dartos <>
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:13:16 -0700 (PDT),
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>
Quote:
>> I believe posterior teeth have a higher failure rate when they are put
>> in group function and/or balancing side function.
>
>Close, but no cigar.
>
>It isn't the group function, it is the parafunction.
>
>;-)
>D
Hurray, for a clear concise accurate answer.

Give Dartos a Romeo Y Julieta.
 
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Amatus Cremona
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      08-30-2008, 07:15 PM
The maxillary canine is a hold over from beast of prey. It is a clenching
tooth.

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On Aug 28, 8:46 am, Dartos <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:
> > I believe posterior teeth have a higher failure rate when they are put
> > in group function and/or balancing side function.
>
> Close, but no cigar.
>
> It isn't the group function, it is the parafunction.
>
> ;-)
> D
That's where we disagree. I feel group function is a parafunction.
Why is the Maxillary canine the strongest tooth in the mouth? To
take lateral forces.


 
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Amatus Cremona
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      08-30-2008, 07:16 PM
agreed

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Amatus

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"kris-polanowski" <> wrote in message
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On Aug 28, 12:13 am, oralhea...@comcast.net wrote:
Quote:
> Most root canals do not fail today when the cause of the root canal is
> decay.
>
> When a root canal is performed because of acute pain in the tooth,
> there is a higher failure. This higher failure rate is due to
> cracked teeth.
>
> I believe posterior teeth have a higher failure rate when they are put
> in group function and/or balancing side function.
>
> I believe MTA should be used in teeth that need root canals because of
> hairline fractures.
>
> What is very surprising is when you see successful root canals done
> in third world countries and in Europe when the canals are only filled
> 1/2 way. The question is why are they so successful?
>
> I learned the Shilder technique, but as long as the canal is clean,
> any technique should work.
>
> Posts and occlusion can cause failure.
>
> I tell patients dead tissue and necrosis is why root canals are
> needed. Do they have to be infected with bacteria? no!
>
> Do cracked teeth cause necrosis?
>
> David DiBenedetto, DMD, AUTHOR, "Insider's guide to gum disease,
> orthodontics and dentistry. What is not taught in dental school."
hmm

I am taking part from years in discussion, some on dentaltown in
prosthodontics section..
I saw many better job made in 3th countires and in Afrcica like in
USA.
It doesnt depends on country it depends on DENTISTS and patients
economy situation.
I have many patients from USA , from time to time from Russia . The
quality of dental treatments
depends on many factors

regards kris Polanowski DDS Poland


 
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Amatus Cremona
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      08-30-2008, 07:17 PM
If it was designed to take lateral forces, it would have a triangulated root
system. A vertical root is designed to take vertical force only.

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On Aug 28, 8:46 am, Dartos <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:
> > I believe posterior teeth have a higher failure rate when they are put
> > in group function and/or balancing side function.
>
> Close, but no cigar.
>
> It isn't the group function, it is the parafunction.
>
> ;-)
> D
That's where we disagree. I feel group function is a parafunction.
Why is the Maxillary canine the strongest tooth in the mouth? To
take lateral forces.


 
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Dartos
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      09-02-2008, 07:53 PM


I resemble that remark.

;-)
D

Amatus Cremona wrote:
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> The maxillary canine is a hold over from beast of prey.
 
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      09-03-2008, 05:46 PM
On Sep 2, 11:28*pm, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote:
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> For every 10 patients that you can claim problems from
> group function, I can show you 40 that are doing great
> and happy as a clam.
>
> It isn't the occlusion, it is the occluding (but I don't
> expect you to ever leave your dogma).
>
> The light you see at the other end of the tunnel is just
> a train coming your way.
>
> ;-)
> Steve Fawks
>
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> > take lateral forces.
Lateral and twisting forces cause problems overtime. Group function
causes twisting forces on the posterior teeth.

Overtime you see bone loss, cracked teeth, tmj symptoms, pain in the
teeth----all from group function or balancing side function.

ALL occlusion is destructive overtime. Everything wears! Why are
our maxillary canines so strong?????? Why are canines never
extracted? I want canines to be used in occlusion.

What's so interesting on being a dentist is following the wear
patterns from different types of occlusion. Once you observe
patients and their occlusion you see many things you never were aware
of before. You see why group function is more detrimental to the
dentition over time.
I


David DiBenedetto, DMD
 
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Dartos
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      09-03-2008, 06:16 PM


Been watching them for almost 30 years (while not wearing blinders).

I see lots of patients in group function doing fine into their later
years.

I see lots of patients tearing their teeth up way before 50.

IME, it is the clenching a grinding that do the damage. Changing the
bite can change the wear patterns and possibly lessen forces on
some of the teeth, but it won't stop the clenching. Next they are
going to destroy all of the expensive dental work. Maybe not in
5 years or even 10, but it will happen.

It is easy and inexpensive to control the clenching (for *most*
patients). Why do extensive, expensive dental treatment when
you don't have to?

D
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> What's so interesting on being a dentist is following the wear
> patterns from different types of occlusion. Once you observe
> patients and their occlusion you see many things you never were aware
> of before. You see why group function is more detrimental to the
> dentition over time.
> I
>
>
> David DiBenedetto, DMD
 
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