I would appreciate if anyone can help answer a question for me. I have an
overbite, and wish to correct this problem. I am going to see a dentist in
a couple of weeks, but I would like to ask this question to you guys first.
What are options for people with overbites? Can braces help? Is there a
surgery? Anything? How much do these things cost? Thank you very much.

Definitions:

1. Overbite means when you bite the top teeth bite down too far making
the lower teeth disappear from view.

2. Overjet - means the top teeth jet out forward from the lower front
teeth meaning you can sneak a French fry in there with your back teeth
closed. Usually its a thin French fry like McDonalds.

However some people can sneak a whole baked potato in there.


Then there is Class II malocclusion (Angle's) meaning the entire lower
jaw is displaced backwards like Eleanor Roosevelt. It is analyzed by
looking at the positions of the upper and lower molars. Ditto with the
French fries but I do not recall Eleanor Roosevelt eating there, but
maybe.

In normal (Class I) occlusion the upper mesiobuccal cusp of the first
molar should lie in the buccal groove of the lower first molar.

This means that normally the upper back teeth are displaced 1/2 tooth
behind the lower back teeth. This accommodates the normally wider
upper arch that has two big teeth in front compared to the lower arch
where the two front ones are small.

This has something to do with French fries again, but I am not sure
what.

Joel


On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 01:07:50 -0500, "XYZ" <> wrote:

>I would appreciate if anyone can help answer a question for me. I have an
>overbite, and wish to correct this problem. I am going to see a dentist in
>a couple of weeks, but I would like to ask this question to you guys first.
>What are options for people with overbites? Can braces help? Is there a
>surgery? Anything? How much do these things cost? Thank you very much.
>

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

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Or could there be an underlying skeletal problem?
There maybe a discrepancy in the vertical face height.
The MFP angle will be smaller than normal ie <28°

Perhaps the sizes of the dental arches


"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <> wrote in message
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> Definitions:
>
> 1. Overbite means when you bite the top teeth bite down too far making
> the lower teeth disappear from view.
>
> 2. Overjet - means the top teeth jet out forward from the lower front
> teeth meaning you can sneak a French fry in there with your back teeth
> closed. Usually its a thin French fry like McDonalds.
>
> However some people can sneak a whole baked potato in there.
>
>
> Then there is Class II malocclusion (Angle's) meaning the entire lower
> jaw is displaced backwards like Eleanor Roosevelt. It is analyzed by
> looking at the positions of the upper and lower molars. Ditto with the
> French fries but I do not recall Eleanor Roosevelt eating there, but
> maybe.
>
> In normal (Class I) occlusion the upper mesiobuccal cusp of the first
> molar should lie in the buccal groove of the lower first molar.
>
> This means that normally the upper back teeth are displaced 1/2 tooth
> behind the lower back teeth. This accommodates the normally wider
> upper arch that has two big teeth in front compared to the lower arch
> where the two front ones are small.
>
> This has something to do with French fries again, but I am not sure
> what.
>
> Joel
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 01:07:50 -0500, "XYZ" <> wrote:
>

an

in

first.

>
> --
> Joel M. Eichen, .
> Philadelphia PA
>
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> represent endorsement by or an official
> position of the SciMedDentistry gang
> or any other official agency either
> actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
>
> Advice on the treatment or care
> of an individual patient should
> be obtained through consultation
> with a dentist who has examined
> that patient or is familiar with
> that patient's dental history.
>
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Hey, I just read this and am about to go take my dental anatomy final! Neat!



"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <> wrote in message
news:...

> Definitions:
>
> 1. Overbite means when you bite the top teeth bite down too far making
> the lower teeth disappear from view.
>
> 2. Overjet - means the top teeth jet out forward from the lower front
> teeth meaning you can sneak a French fry in there with your back teeth
> closed. Usually its a thin French fry like McDonalds.
>
> However some people can sneak a whole baked potato in there.
>
>
> Then there is Class II malocclusion (Angle's) meaning the entire lower
> jaw is displaced backwards like Eleanor Roosevelt. It is analyzed by
> looking at the positions of the upper and lower molars. Ditto with the
> French fries but I do not recall Eleanor Roosevelt eating there, but
> maybe.
>
> In normal (Class I) occlusion the upper mesiobuccal cusp of the first
> molar should lie in the buccal groove of the lower first molar.
>
> This means that normally the upper back teeth are displaced 1/2 tooth
> behind the lower back teeth. This accommodates the normally wider
> upper arch that has two big teeth in front compared to the lower arch
> where the two front ones are small.
>
> This has something to do with French fries again, but I am not sure
> what.
>
> Joel
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 01:07:50 -0500, "XYZ" <> wrote:
>

an

in

first.

>
> --
> Joel M. Eichen, .
> Philadelphia PA
>
> DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:
>
> *********
>
> Dental health-related material
> is provided for information purposes
> only and does not necessarily
> represent endorsement by or an official
> position of the SciMedDentistry gang
> or any other official agency either
> actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
>
> Advice on the treatment or care
> of an individual patient should
> be obtained through consultation
> with a dentist who has examined
> that patient or is familiar with
> that patient's dental history.
>
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>
> careful
>
> Joel wrote it :-)
>
>
> Charlie Ruff, DMD
> Specialist in Orthodontics
> Diplomate American Board of Orthodontics

I was thinking "C" at the best.

carabelli

"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." ...................

> Then there is Class II malocclusion (Angle's) meaning the entire lower
> jaw is displaced backwards like Eleanor Roosevelt.

I'm too young to have had a affair with Eleanor, nor do I have Hillary's
abilities to talk to her now. So can't verify your analysis.

However, a Class II malocclusion does not always involve a saggital skeletal
discrepancy. Angle's classifications focused entirely on the first molars.
It was a reasonable and good starting place, but it does not cover it all.

Sometimes I will see Class II div 1 malocclusions that actually have a
significant negative Wits measurement.

carabelli

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:50:31 GMT, "carabelli" <> wrote:

>
>I'm too young to have had a affair with Eleanor, nor do I have Hillary's
>abilities to talk to her now. So can't verify your analysis.

Both are fates too horrible to consider.

You both now owe me a fine meal since your mental paintings
have caused the loss of my previous meal.

I intend to collect this debt that you now owe me.

WB

;-)

"WB" <> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 02:50:31 GMT, "carabelli" <>

wrote:

>

>
>
> Both are fates too horrible to consider.
>
> You both now owe me a fine meal since your mental paintings
> have caused the loss of my previous meal.
>
> I intend to collect this debt that you now owe me.
>
> WB
>
> ;-)

mea culpa.

You owe me a keyboard for the times I spit expresso all over it laughing.

carabelli

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:19:17 GMT, "carabelli" <> wrote:

>You owe me a keyboard for the times I spit expresso all over it laughing.
>
>carabelli

Your lip incontinence can be corected by your peers.
Or, if you want, am willing to sew them together.
Could just punch your anteriors into your oral pharynx:
quick and easy, your choice of course.
Now you owe me a double esspresso and...
a plane ticket...There is a third option.

Ya'll "wire benders" could half your treatment time
and double your *parent* satisfation rate, if you would
just drop the attitude. <not a personal attack>

Now for an example if you have read this far.

Suppose any Angle class.
EXT prn
Endo prn
CB to correct

Unless skeletal deformities exist,
this type of TX can be *excellently* done
in 6-12 mos.
many times less than 3 mos.

Keep bendin' them wires,

W

You are welcome.

I am nor sure about Burger King French fries, but I may be doing some
advanced research!

Joel


On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:41:29 GMT, "Dental Stud\(ent\)"
<> wrote:

>Hey, I just read this and am about to go take my dental anatomy final! Neat!
>
>
>
>"Joel M. Eichen D.D.S." <> wrote in message
>news:.. .

>an

>in

>first.

>

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

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