On Aug 7, 2:09*pm, ferr...@paris.com wrote:
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> Bacteria like all life must have iron to thrive.
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and water.. But must 'all life forms' have heme iron to thrive?? And
is there a shortage of iron to justify risks of HEME iron for humans?
Let's take a look...
out of hominoidea ecological niche with pathetic life spans to
match...
(extirpated/feral primates)
Humans cannot 'eat meat'. Enculturated humans may choose to consume
meat but it is not digested as fruit. Try to vary diet (exclude meat)
to notice the difference in digestion. 'Eating' connotes digestion.
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> It was when high carbohydrate bearing foods
> were introduced
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The second worst or very worst diet style? It's academic. Other
countries were also 'introduced' to processed/starchy food without the
same set backs.. Why? Inuit have also benefited from medical advances
too. Adopting SAD has produced disease risks for all countries
involved, not just Inuit, yet Inuit life expectancy remains relatively
low and certainly NOT a model in any aspect for natural/healthy diets
for H. sapiens.
Health Rep. 2008 Mar;19(1):7-19.
MAIN RESULTS: In 1991, life expectancy at birth in the Inuit-inhabited
areas was about 68 years, which was 10 years lower than for Canada
overall. From 1991 to 2001, life expectancy in the Inuit-inhabited
areas did not increase, although it rose by about two years for Canada
as a whole. As a result, the gap widened to more than 12 years.
So why are humans to consume diets of high iron now?
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> into their diet from abroad did this quality dental
> health decline.
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Maybe humans can brush their teeth with heme iron toothpaste. Inuit
diet has been watered down in some respects, as has any traditional
diet supplemented w/junk food, the fact remains there is no evidence
Inuit are healthier overall now. And with what traditional food Inuit
do subsist on, it appears they are unable to keep pace w/the rest of
the world in terms of overall health despite increased health care
access for Inuit that comes w/the modern diet changes. Canada has far
outpaced Inuit in terms of life expectancy and disease avoidance.
Overall health status and life expectancy of Inuit did NOT decline
with introduction of processed/Westernized diet while access to modern
medical advances came in its train. So Inuit had access to med care as
well as junk food JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE MODERN WORLD THAT
INCREASED LIFE EXPECTANCY, INSTEAD. What was the confounding variable?
Perhaps animal fat as it limits/is not life promoting (only survival
food). Cows can consume heme iron too. So Inuit have cleaner teeth but
die sooner?? You can keep teeth clean and consume cardboard and die
quickly. How do you separate excess iron from meat?
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> Another nail in the coffin of the eating meat and it's iron is the cause
> of *ALL* disease idea.
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But why does it have to be 'heme iron' as opposed to plant iron? Why
the disease risks? Where did Ironjustice advocate 'high carbohydrate
bearing foods' without sufficient plant iron and vitamin C as opposed
to the problematic heme iron??
Can J Public Health. 2000 Nov-Dec;91(6):407-10. Anemia and iron status
in Inuit infants from northern Quebec.The corresponding prevalence of
microcytic anemia was 0.0%, 4.3% and 21.3%. At 2, 6 and 12 months,
iron-deficiency anemia was present in 1.3% (1/79), 24.4% (21/86) and
26.3% (25/95) of infants, respectively. This study shows iron-
deficiency anemia to be a problem in Inuit infants as young as 6
months old.
So what good comes from a heme iron diet?
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> The iron of those nails is most surely killing it.
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"The paradox of anemia with high meat intake: a review of the
multifactorial etiology of anemia in the Inuit of North America.
Anemia is a serious concern among indigenous populations in North
America, and it appears to be widespread among the Inuit despite
abundant intakes of heme iron. It is therefore hypothesized that
anemia for the Inuit involves other dietary factors not usually
associated with animal foods, such as low intakes of vitamin A and/or
folate, riboflavin, and vitamin C.
Nutr Rev. 2008 May;66(5):256-71.
Yes, Ironjustice may be fixated on the iron issue but what are you
trying to prove by defending a risky heme iron diet? It is more absurd
and popular to be oblivious to the excess iron consumed in animals
with numerous/varied disease risks than insufficient iron risk of a
high vitamin C diet without the meat/varied disease risks.
“There is a remarkably close association between the amount of iron
stored in our tissues and the risk of death from cancer, heart
disease, or from all causes.. The shape of this curve, representing
the iron burden, is amazingly similar to the curves representing the
rate of death in general, and the rate of death from cancer. There is
no other relationship in biology that I know of that has this peculiar
shape” Iron's Dangers Ray Peat 2006.
There is no shortage of protein, air, fat, water, bacteria or iron.
There is an abundance of preventable/acquired diseases of affluence.
With health,
Chris